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Baz Khan
08-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Pak army and IsI agents/talibs killed innocents swatis,destroy their homes,schools and here the same victims of this ISI drama celebrate the napak Independence.
Swatis dancing in the streets of Mingora on the 14th August.
click on the link
http://www.dailymashriq.com.pk/mashriq%20main/top3.html
laevanay
08-14-2009, 10:13 PM
Ask a local Swathi; each and every one of them are thankful to the Pak army for their action. It might be a surprise to you and hard to swallow like the fact that it was these local Pakhtuns who supported these thugs at first that now they have seen the true faces of Talib thugs and vow never to support a mullah again that is, if they have the courage to return!!!!
Don't ever forget the fact that even if 2-3 people were created by the ISI it was the thousands of local, common, everyday Pakhtuns that gave them their power till it was out of their hands....
Baz Khan
08-14-2009, 10:34 PM
These zombies/talibs Trained,funded and supported by isi with full backing of napak army.
The army killed,destroyed and ruined the whole of swat,buner etc.
Who is the head of isi?
The same Kayani once the head of isi.
You can not separate isi from napak army.
They are the same.
GHARIBUL WATAN
08-15-2009, 03:54 AM
Ask a local Swathi; each and every one of them are thankful to the Pak army for their action. It might be a surprise to you and hard to swallow like the fact that it was these local Pakhtuns who supported these thugs at first that now they have seen the true faces of Talib thugs and vow never to support a mullah again that is, if they have the courage to return!!!!
Don't ever forget the fact that even if 2-3 people were created by the ISI it was the thousands of local, common, everyday Pakhtuns that gave them their power till it was out of their hands....
Talib was not that much strong. it was ISI backing and whole drama of GHQ.
NO NEED TO CELEBERATE INDEPENDECE DAY.
BLACK FLAG ( AS SIGN OF PROTEST) SHOUD BE RAISED FROM EVERY HOME IN SWAT AND BUNER.
laevanay
08-15-2009, 05:46 AM
We celebrated!!!!
We celebrated the liberation from the Talib thugs and the hiding of our local ghundagaan who joined the Talibs. We are thankful that every local pakhtun who supported the Talib thugs are now answering to their deeds.
We all agree it was the ISI who created the mess but you must agree it was the thousands of local pakhtuns like the FMs, Shah Murdaran or Dauran, Munafiq Muslim Khan(who is no Khan) and the thousands of others who helped ISI destroy Swat....
Thank God the illegitimate children of ISI and CIA are now gone....
dardmand
08-15-2009, 07:38 AM
we celebrated!!!!
We celebrated the liberation from the talib thugs and the hiding of our local ghundagaan who joined the talibs. We are thankful that every local pakhtun who supported the talib thugs are now answering to their deeds.
We all agree it was the isi who created the mess but you must agree it was the thousands of local pakhtuns like the fms, shah murdaran or dauran, munafiq muslim khan(who is no khan) and the thousands of others who helped isi destroy swat....
Thank god the illegitimate children of isi and cia are now gone....
ددې څۀ ګارنټي ده چې ائي ايس ائي به د دې نه پس داسې چلونه نۀ کوي۔ دوي طالب پښتون دښمنۍ کښې پاللې وو او د طالب خلاف عمليات يې د امريکې په وينا پېل کړې وو۔ اوس سوال دا دې چې مونږ ته به څنګه پته لګي چې ائي ايس ائي پښتون سره دښمني پريښې ده۔
WatanGul
08-15-2009, 10:44 AM
ما هم په ټیلیوژن دغه پروګرام وکتلو. د سکولونو ماشومان او استاذان پکې ډیر وو. افضل خان لالا او میان افتخار په مخکې صف کې پیژندلی کسان وو. نو پوځیان وو. د اردو، هندکو او پښتو سندری وییل کیدلی. او ماشومانو ته به اشاره کیدله نو لاسونه به یی پړقول.
WatanGul
08-15-2009, 10:48 AM
Swat suicide bombing kills 3 troops
Updated at: 1300 PST, Saturday, August 15, 2009
SWAT: A suicide bomber rammed an explosive-laden vehicle into a security checkpoint situated in Swat Valley on Saturday, killing at least three soldiers, two security officials said.
It was the first suicide attack in Swat since July, when the government said a military offensive against the Pakistani Taliban in the valley and surrounding areas had largely been successful.
Several more soldiers manning the checkpoint were wounded in the attack in the town of Khawaza Khela, said the two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press.
Senior police official Idrees Khan confirmed the suicide bombing but had no information about the casualties.
The military has been winding down its three-month offensive in Swat, although the army said it still faces pockets of Taliban resistance in the surrounding area.
WatanGul
08-15-2009, 11:08 AM
Provincial minister, MPs, journalists not allowed to attend function in Swat
Peshawar: A provincial minister, members of provincial and National assemblies and journalists were not allowed by security forces and civil administration to attend the much-touted Independence Day function in Swat that was organised by the provincial government on Friday.
The provincial government had decided to celebrate the Independence music show at Wadudia Hall. Under very tight security, security forces and civil administration did not allow the provincial minister for forest Wajid Ali Khan, who was also the chief organiser of the show, MPAs Dr Haider Ali Khan, Shamsher Ali Khan, Jaffar Shah, MNA Muzafarul Mulk.
A team of journalists taken by the NWFP government to the music show was also not permitted to cover the event. Media persons boycotted the show and came back to Peshawar.
A provincial minister tried to negotiate with the Swat-based MPAs, MNA and provincial minister, but all in vain and the ANP elected members also announced to boycott the Independence Day music show and spent the day in a hotel. - PPI
zmary001
08-15-2009, 12:42 PM
we celebrated!!!!
We celebrated the liberation from the talib thugs and the hiding of our local ghundagaan who joined the talibs. We are thankful that every local pakhtun who supported the talib thugs are now answering to their deeds.
We all agree it was the isi who created the mess but you must agree it was the thousands of local pakhtuns like the fms, shah murdaran or dauran, munafiq muslim khan(who is no khan) and the thousands of others who helped isi destroy swat....
Thank god the illegitimate children of isi and cia are now gone....
lewanai khana, hasi da sahar khobona wine
ra baidar sha, rora isi sta dost na doshman dai
pakistan day celebrate kawan dasi laka sok chi khpal mor ta doka warkawi
dera da sharam khabara da rora agha pakistan chi tarosa pori ye sta pa korona bombari kawal nan da agha pa khushalai ki ta am sharik ye
agha kho ta barbadawal ghwari ,,, aw ta da napaka taran warsara waye
dera da afsos khabara da
dardmand
08-15-2009, 01:17 PM
Pakhtoon Khan Shinwari of AVT Khyber wrote on facebook: (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1247706012&ref=nf) wrora pa dagho simo ke daira loya khala da che zamong da pukhtoon leedership na na pura kigi, paron da de khala na talibano gata porta kawala nan ye tarina da pakistan army proty kavi, belive me the behavior of paksitan army is worsen with local peop...le than taliban, khalak wai che duwa kawai kho zamong da bekhwando ao be amalo pa duwa ke hum asar na de pate.
Pir_Rokhan
08-15-2009, 02:08 PM
The army action against Taliban was a drama by the ISI and army. They were given a deadline by the US to do an operation and half heartedly they did the operation but not against Taliban who were their own people but against the civilians who were all Pakhtuns showing to the world and to US that they have done a good job.
In reality it was a threat to army but they did it to present themselves as heroes to restore their image which they lost during the CJP case during Musharraf regime.
However now the Pakhtuns public cannot be deceived any more. Now every Pakhtun know their foe and friend. The only thing which they dont know is what to do.
It is the responsibility of the Pakhtuns Political parties to give a target and a goal to the common masses of Pakhtuns to kindle a ray of hope in them for their future which should be nothing less than FREEDOM.
dardmand
08-15-2009, 02:24 PM
As Taliban leadership is at large and the military played another game in Swat how is it possible for the Pukhtoon nationalist parties to work on the ground. Political work would mean to speak the truth and inspire courage in the people but the fear of both army and Taliban would not allow it.
Singleton
08-15-2009, 02:31 PM
Innocent masses, the vast majority of Pakhtuns inside Pakistan, all areas, are reported by polls done there to be heavily against and not want anything to do with either the Taliban or al Qaida.
This should tell some of you that you are wasting your time writing from safe overseas locations imagining that decent, honest, and educated Pakhtuns would be stupid enough to do business with the Taliban/al Qaida.
You can also if you have an open mind and open eyes and ears note on the ground in Pakistan that all long overdue efforts to help jump start a better life for all Pakhtuns is in force and moving ahead, despite continued suicide bomings and murderous assaults when and where they can by the ever weakening Taliban/al Qaida.
Hell's fires are roaring higher and higher daily with the arrival of more and more terrorists, Taliban, and al Qaida, who are so surprised to be there, but of course should have known better..."hate" is demeaning and leads to Hell folks.
laevanay
08-15-2009, 03:42 PM
Sorry guys.... but when talking to locals, all of them give an opposite view and are thankful to be back home living a peaceful life just as they were before the ugly head of Talibs rose. I am not saying ISI is our friend or the army. But lets admit the fact that we were so weak in front of the enemy that we were helpless. If the army had not cleaned up Swat,the Americans might have helped us, I do not care who helped us but we got rid of the cancer of Mullahism and Talibism. That is all I care about because we ourselves could not get rid of them.
Yes we pakhtuns were puppets in the hands of our enemies because we pakhtuns are weak. Pakhtuns should become strong, by playing the blame game we will get no where. And no Talibistan is not the answer!
One FM was created/supported by ISI but the local ghunda from Kota/Ugrathai was a local thug along with the thousands of others who joined them was not... all the other losers who joined them too were not from Punjab, India, Afghanistan, US (I am not saying there might have been a couple of imports but most were locals) no proper person from a decent family joined those thugs.....
dardmand
08-15-2009, 07:15 PM
sorry guys.... But when talking to locals, all of them give an opposite view and are thankful to be back home living a peaceful life just as they were before the ugly head of talibs rose. I am not saying isi is our friend or the army. But lets admit the fact that we were so weak in front of the enemy that we were helpless. If the army had not cleaned up swat,the americans might have helped us, i do not care who helped us but we got rid of the cancer of mullahism and talibism. That is all i care about because we ourselves could not get rid of them.
Yes we pakhtuns were puppets in the hands of our enemies because we pakhtuns are weak. Pakhtuns should become strong, by playing the blame game we will get no where. And no talibistan is not the answer!
One fm was created/supported by isi but the local ghunda from kota/ugrathai was a local thug along with the thousands of others who joined them was not... All the other losers who joined them too were not from punjab, india, afghanistan, us (i am not saying there might have been a couple of imports but most were locals) no proper person from a decent family joined those thugs.....
زما خوږه وروره! د يو څو غنډه ګانو د پاره تۀ د سوات ټول شريفان او معصومه خلق ولې بدناموې۔ د دې مثال داسې دې لکي په يو کلي کښې يو رزيل پېدا شي او خلق ترې ډېر تنګ وي خو پولس د هغۀ په طرف وي۔ اوس ستا دا خبره ټيک ده چې د خلقو هم څۀ ذمه داري جوړيږي چې ځان د دغه رزيل کس نه خلاص کښې۔
اوس سوال دا دې چې داسې ولي وي چې ټول قام يو طرف ته بې وسه او يو څو رزيلان بل طرف ته طاقتور۔ د دې سبب دا دې چې د جبر او تشدد په بنسټ ولاړ رياستونه د ټولنې زور وخت په وخت کموي او د دې د پاره داسې بئ رحمه لارې راپېدا کوي چې د ټولنې ټول تنان بې وسه شي۔ د ټولو غټه حربه د ټولنې نه سياست ايستل او په بدل کښې مذهبي سوچونه خپرول دي چې له کبله يې د انسانانو په خپل ځان يقين کمزورې شي او په ميتافزکل وسيلو باندې تکيه شورو کړي۔ دا د يو ټولنې د زوال د ټولو نه غټ سبب دې۔
MandoKhail
08-21-2009, 09:53 PM
طالبان کی پشت پناہی نہ کی جاتی تو ان کا صفایا کر دیتے
عبدالحئی کاکڑ
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، پشاور
فوج کو خبر ہونے تک طالبان گھر کا محاصرہ کر چکے تھے
پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقوں اور صوبہ سرحد میں پچھلے کئی سالوں سے جاری تشدد کی لہر نے نہ صرف لوگوں کے ذہنوں میں ملک کی سلامتی کے بارے میں خدشات پیدا کیے ہیں بلکہ اس کی کھوکھ سے جنم لینے والے المیے متاثرہ افراد کی زندگیوں کے ساتھ ہمیشہ کے لیے نتھی ہو چکے ہیں۔ طالبان اور سکیورٹی فورسز کے مابین جاری لڑائی سے جنم لینے والے انسانی المیوں کے مختلف پہلووں کو صحافت کے تنگ دامن میں یا تو سرے سے جگہ ہی نہیں مل سکی اور اگر ملی بھی تو اس طرح نہیں جس طرح سے یہ واقعات رونما ہوئے اور یوں حقیقی کہانیاں صحافتی مقابلے کی دوڑ کے ملبے میں کہیں دفن ہوگئیں۔
پشاور میں بی بی سی کے نامہ نگار عبدالحئی کاکڑ جنگ زدہ افراد یا خاندانوں پر بیتی ہوئی انہی کہانیوں کی کھوج میں ہیں جنہیں بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام ایک سیریز کی صورت میں شائع کر رہی ہے۔ اس سلسلے کی دوسری کہانی۔
کلِک جنگ کہانی: پہلی قسط
اکرام اللہ (فرضی نام)، گوالیرئی، تحصیل مٹہ، سوات
یہ چھبیس اکتوبر دو ہزار آٹھ کی صبح کا واقعہ ہے۔ گوالیرئی گاؤں کی مسجد میں ستر کے قریب مقامی قبائلی رہنما طالبان کے نمائندے ملا شمشیر کے ساتھ بات چیت کرنے کے لیے اکھٹے ہوئے تھے۔ مذاکرات کے دوران یہ طے پایا کہ طالبان آئندہ گاؤں میں داخل نہیں ہونگے البتہ انہیں سڑک پر سے گزرنے کی اجازت ہوگی اور مشران نے طالبان کی یہ شرط مان لی کہ وہ فوج سے ملاقات کرکے انہیں گاؤں میں آنے سے منع کریں گے۔ قرآن مجید کو گواہ بنا کر درمیان میں رکھا گیا اور ملا شمشیر نے آخری دعا کردی۔
دو دن بعد انہوں نے ہم میں سے دو مشران کوگولیاں ماردیں اور انہیں باہر بجلی کے کھمبوں پر لٹکادیا۔ بعد میں انہوں نے تین یرغمالی مشران کو اس شرط پر چھوڑ دیا کہ وہ گاؤں کے لوگوں کو طالبان سے راضی نامہ کرنے پر قائل کریں۔ مشران نے گاؤں جا کر لوگوں کے سامنے دامن پھیلا پھیلا کر انہیں طالبان سے صلح کرنے پر راضی کرا لیا۔
اکرام اللہ
دعا کے بعد ملا شمشیر باہر نکل گئے اور مشران فوجی حکام سے مذاکرات کا طریقہ کار طے کرنے میں مصروف ہوگئے کہ چند منٹوں کے بعد ملا شمشیر مسجد میں دوبارہ داخل ہوئے اور کہا کہ امیر صاحب آگئے ہیں وہ تم لوگوں سے کچھ کہنا چاہ رہا ہے۔ تھوڑی دیر بعد ابنِ یامین، خوگ، غزنوی نامی طالبان کمانڈر اپنے تیس کے قریب ساتھیوں کے ہمرا جوتوں کے ساتھ ہی مسجد میں داخل ہوگئے۔
ان کے پاس کلاشنکوفیں، جی تھری بندوقیں تھیں اور انہوں نے اپنے جسموں کے ساتھ گرینیڈ اور دیگردھماکہ خیز مواد باندھ رکھا تھا۔ ابن یامین نے داخل ہوتے ہی اپنے ایک رشتہ دار ایوب سپین دادا پر کلاشنکوف کا برسٹ چلا دیا۔اس کے ساتھ ہی طالبان نے جرگے پر اندھا دھند فائرنگ شروع کر دی۔ گولیوں کے شور میں کسی کی بھی آواز سنائی نہیں دے رہے تھی۔ جب فائرنگ میں کمی آئی تو میں نے دیکھا کوئی کراہ رہا ہے، کوئی مردہ حالت میں، کوئی مسجد کے ستون کے پیچھے چھپا اور بعض لوگ کسی کونے میں گھٹڑیوں کی صورت میں بیھٹے ہوئے ہیں۔اس موقع پر پانچ افراد ہلاک اور سات زخمی ہوگئے۔طالبان نے باقی لوگوں پر بندوقیں تان کر انہیں یر غمال بنایا۔
انہوں نے سپین دادا کے چھوٹے بھائی بہر مند خان کو قتل کرنے کے بعد پاؤں سے پکڑ کر باہر مسجد کی صحن میں پھینک دیا اور ان کے دوسرے بھائی بر کمال کو ابنِ یامین نے زندہ پکڑ کر ان سے کہا کہ وہ تم ہی تھے جس نے مجھے دھمکی دی تھی کہ میں تمھاری آنکھیں نکال دونگا۔ یہ کہنے کے بعد اس نے بر کمال کی آنکھوں پر کلاشنکوف کی نال رکھی اور دو برسٹ مار دیے۔
اس کے بعد طالبان نے اندر آکر ایوب سپین داد اور ایک اور قبائلی رہنما کی لاش اٹھائی اور ان کے ہاتھ پاؤں کاٹ کر انہیں باہر ایک درخت پر لٹکادیا۔ابھی ہم ساٹھ سے زائد لوگ اندر ہی یرغمال تھے کہ باہر سے شدید فائرنگ کی آوازیں آنے لگیں۔ ہمیں ڈر لگا کہ کہیں گاؤں والوں نے ہماری مدد کے لیے طالبان پر حملہ نہ کردیاہو۔ ہمیں خوف تھا کہیں طالبان ہم سب کو مار نہ دیں۔
گاؤں میں جو دس سے زائد لوگ طالبان کو مطلوب تھے ان پر ایک ایک لاکھ روپے یا ایک کلاشنکوف دینے کا جرمانہ عائد کیا گیا جو انہوں نے بعد میں ادا بھی کر دیا۔
اکرام اللہ
یہ سلسلہ دس سے ایک بجے تک جاری رہا۔ اس کے بعد طالبان ساٹھ سے زائد یر غمالی مشران کو اپنے ہمراہ لے گئے اور ہمیں گاؤں سے تقریباً دو کلومیٹر دور اغل نامی پہاڑی علاقے کی طرف لے گئے۔ وہاں پر ہمیں ایک سکول میں رکھا گیا۔ وہ ہر وقت ہمیں مارتے تھے۔ خوفزدہ کرنے کے لیے ہمارے سامنے چھریاں تیز کرتے اور آ کر کہتے آج اس کو اور کل فلاں کو ذبح کرنے کی باری ہے۔
دو دن بعد انہوں نے ہم میں سے دو مشران کوگولیاں ماردیں اور انہیں باہر بجلی کے کھمبوں پر لٹکادیا۔ بعد میں انہوں نے تین یرغمالی مشران کو اس شرط پر چھوڑ دیا کہ وہ گاؤں کے لوگوں کو طالبان سے راضی نامہ کرنے پر قائل کریں۔ مشران نے گاؤں جا کر لوگوں کے سامنے دامن پھیلا پھیلا کر انہیں طالبان سے صلح کرنے پر راضی کرا لیا۔
اس کے بعد ہمیں چھوڑ دیا گیا۔ گاؤں میں جو دس سے زائد لوگ طالبان کو مطلوب تھے ان پر ایک ایک لاکھ روپے یا ایک کلاشنکوف دینے کا جرمانہ عائد کیا گیا جو انہوں نے بعد میں ادا بھی کر دیا۔ جب ہم واپس آئے توگاؤں والوں نے بتایا کہ پہلے دن جب وہ جاں بحق ہونے والے افراد کو دفنانے میں مصروف تھے کہ فوجی ہیلی کاپٹروں نے آکر فائرنگ کی جس میں تین افراد زخمی ہوگئے۔ جو لوگ باقی میتوں کو غسل دینے میں مصروف تھے وہ بھی بھاگ گئے۔
ہمارے گاؤں کے قریب پیر سمیع اللہ کا گاؤں ہے۔ وہاں پر جب لوگوں کو پتہ چلا کہ گوالیرئی پر طالبان نے حملہ کردیا تو انہوں نے لشکر بنایا اور ہماری طرف روانہ ہوگئے لیکن جب انہوں نے گاؤں پر ہیلی کاپٹروں کو شیلنگ کرتے دیکھا تو وہ واپس لوٹ گئے۔
میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ اگر ہماری فوج اور خفیہ ادارے طالبان کی پشت پناہی نہ کرتے تو ہم سوات کے لوگ ان مٹھی بھر افراد کا صفایا کردیتے۔
Khan Baba
08-21-2009, 10:02 PM
And how the statement can be construed as "Pusht Panahee"?
Army action in Swat was appreciated by Mehmood Khan Achakzai as well. So being his strident lover, why dont you? hahahahha
Pir_Rokhan
08-21-2009, 11:31 PM
As I have said in my post elsewhere too,the swat drama was just an effort to get the rapport and repute of army back as it had gone down to negative in the CJP case.They were froced by the US to do this operation after which they decided to do it cautionsly without giving access to world media.They had a deadline of two weeks after which US had threatened to attack themselves.
However Pakhtuns have realised these tricks and gimmicks of ISI and army.Interestingly all this ISI drama is going to fire back as will be seen in the near future.
Erlangner
09-30-2009, 04:58 PM
I am just pasting an e-mail of my one of dear friend, who is working in Qandoz but has a family in swat as he belong to Swat Kabal.
I am pasting it without any change, how the people feel?
Deer Khoga Wrora
Teer Akhtar de mobarak Sha. Sta da email aw da akhtar da mubarakai deera deera manana. Wrora pura 7 meashte pas khpal janan watan Swat ta da akhtar dapara pa 19 tarekh da kabul na laram. wala deer khysta swat dey khu makhke pa ke da ghate gere, da patki aw da kamees partug badshahi wa awo oss pa ke the toor boot, da khaki wardai aw da shne topai badshahi da. awam deer sakht pa azab di da cheking na. zama pa kali sirf 8 zaya chekpostona di che da har 200 gaz pa fasila di.
wrora swat da deero duaganu talbgar dey ch pa ke bya hagha shan khukula rashi.
nan kabul ta rawarasidam aw email ta me access osho, bakhana ghwaram da nawakhta jawab darkawalo da para.
WatanGul
09-30-2009, 08:27 PM
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