Pashtun districts of balochistan

[Lakiwal]

It is usually stated that there are 13 Pashtun districts in balochistan.
can any body help me (especially mandokhel and watangul) help me in naming these districts. i know names of only districts which zhob, pashin, loralai, sibi,quetta, ziarat, chaman, mosakhel, qila abdulah and qila saifullah
which r rest of 3?

[millat]

Sherani, Barkhan, Sibi.

[Dirojae]

Sherani, Barkhan, Sibi.

Ao daa uwaya che...da balochistan somra illaqa, as in area, da pukhtano da? a map would help a lot.

[WatanGul]

Ao daa uwaya che...da balochistan somra illaqa, as in area, da pukhtano da? a map would help a lot.
It is 41000 Sq/miles

[Lakiwal]

It is 41000 Sq/miles

its more than NWFP which has 28773 sq/miles area.
what wil b population of Pashtuns in balochistan.

[zalmayzia]

http://www.balochistan.gov.pk/New%20Folder/Pashtoon%20Area%20&%20Baloch%20Area.jpg

Pashtoon districts of Balochistan province are 12 out of 28, which are Quetta (Baloch and abadkar also live there), Pishin, Sherani, Ziarat, Qilla Abdullah, Qilla Saifullah, Loralai, Sibbi (Baloch also live there), Hurnai, Musakhel, Zhob and Pishin.

The map is an old one . Hurnai and Sherani are new districts which is not included in this map.

Harnai was a sub-district of Sibbi till 2007 but after then it is announced as a separate district.

Chaman is not a district but a sub-division of Qilla Abdullah

Barkhan is a district where majority of the people hails from Khetran tribe.

[Lakiwal]

the kehtranis are mentioned in books as pashtuns while in actual they consider themselves balochs?

[Dirojae]

the kehtranis are mentioned in books as pashtuns while in actual they consider themselves balochs?

Yes Khetrans consider themselves Balochs. Are they Pashtuns???

[Lakiwal]

^yes, by genealogy they r pashtuns but by culture they r balochs. their langauge khetrani is mixture of balochi and pashto. they consider themselves balochs but balochs do not consider them as pure and true balochs.



shame on these khetranis

[zmary001]

most baloch are pashtuns,,, zahri,, raisani,, and qalat khans,, they are pastuns and amazingly they are the nawabas and khans of balochs,,,

[Lakiwal]

^May b these pashtun sardars/nawabs of baloch tribes consider thereselves among balochs.

[zmary001]

yes indeed,, cos they have honour from baloch,, how can they lose this honour

[Lakiwal]

yes indeed,, cos they have honour from baloch,, how can they lose this honour

Then we as pashtuns should not be proud of these sardars...these are lost sons of our nation

[zmary001]

Then we as pashtuns should not be proud of these sardars...these are lost sons of our nation

actually this is our tradition which making our own sons angry ,,, one of the bad thing is reveng( doshmani)
long long yrears ogo when our forfathers involved in (doshmanies) so they migrate to other tribes for shelter ,, and thts why it happend they married there and become one of thire member of tribe,, slowly slowly they got the power and there childrens become in power of the opposite tribes,, and tht is the fact they dont call them sleves pashtuns,, and baloch accepted them as there nawab , sardar and khan due to there bravery and loyalty.

[Lakiwal]

^ Because of this inter-tribal fueds, lot of pashtun tribes have lose their identity and presence like dalazaks, mianas, suris, lodis etc. Niazis were pushed across indus to punjab by their own cousins marwats, and nowadays they hav lose much of their identity in punjab and speak tusi, wich, galsun.,.

thanx to ahamd shah abdali the great that he lined all tribes under one flag.
we r in intense need of leader like him.

[zmary001]

yes indeed,,, iam agree

and we need unity ,, strong aims,, sacrify,, but the time come now we have to show our unity ,, believe me or not one day ull see these talibans in the shape of pshtun freedom fighters,, one day u me and all new generation take place of these talibans but we dont call then talibans ,, we should call pashtun freedom fighters
we have no other way just we have to fight for our rights
this is the only hope my brother
we dont trust on mahmood khan and asfandyar khan they are just passing time
see my brave swaties are suffering today and these leaders are doing nothing for them
my brave and honourable sisters of swat suffering ,,, they calling us
fight for us,, i will give my blood to pashtunistan and i wish i die for it

[Lakiwal]

Thats the reason i m never impressed from non-voilent movement of bacha khan.
once 200 members of khudi khidamatgar died at the hand of british police in Qisa khwani by just standing infront of bullets, dying, doing no resistance bcoz they were peace dows?

[zmary001]

we can not win wth out voilence,,, pakistani army is becoming night mares,, they are killing our people like sheeps,,,
wallah
i become mad when i heare through news tht army killing pashtuns in the name of taliban and pahtuns still wth pakistan
iam very angry from khaibar tv ,, they are doing such a coward transmission why they are fear of pakistan
i become mad when they saying 20(sharkhwakhi) killed and 1 security (shaheed)
see how shamfull is it
one of my good frined from miran shah i told me army killing innocent pahtun youngster cos they have long hairs ,,, when they killed them giving name of terrorists

[Lakiwal]

^Wazirs have tradition of keeping their hairs long and tabibans have also long hairs for jihadi hairs.



in our area when army convey was passing through village, a villager standing at road side waved his hand for welcome but unluckily he was immediately shot dead by armymen ...

[WatanGul]

لکیواله وروره
د باچاخان د عدم تشدد فلسفه غلطه نه وه د هفې تشریع غلطه وشوه . باچاخان د پښتنو په خپل مینځ کې عدم تشدد غوښتلو خو پښتنو په خپل مینځ کې د تشدد نه کار واخیست او په زرګونو پښتانه په معمولي خبرو یو بل وژني. په هر کلی کې د ماشومانو په جګړه، د چرګانو په جګړه، په نیغو کتلو ، په یو بل پسې په ټوخیدلو زمونږه د وطن ښایسته ښایسته ځوانان مري. خو بل خوا ټول وطن لاړو بل قبضه کړو او پښتانه ساړه بریتونه ناست دي.

[zmary001]

pa saro breto beghairata nast di,,, der pashtana os am jangizi

da bacha khan falsafa laara zara shwa,, os ba zahar pa zahro mri

[WatanGul]

http://www.dailydunya.com/today/news/n9.gif

[Khan Baba]

Sherani, Barkhan, Sibi.

I have visited Sibbi and I couldnt found a single Pushtun in Sibi.

Khan of Qalat is also a Baloch. I met him once and he was throughout talking on Baloch nationalism. Had he been a Pukhtun he would have metioned that at least to me.

[WatanGul]

په خیر راغلی. څومره چهټي دی راوړی ده.
خان پښتانه ځان سره لیکي او که تا د خان آف قلات قبیله مالومه کړه نو خبر به شی چې دغه د پښتنو قبیله ده او که د بلوچو ؟؟

[WatanGul]

I have visited Sibbi and I couldnt found a single Pushtun in Sibi.

Khan of Qalat is also a Baloch. I met him once and he was throughout talking on Baloch nationalism. Had he been a Pukhtun he would have metioned that at least to me.

History of Sibi

The history of the town goes back to 13th century and due to its exposed position between the mouths of the Harnai and Bolan passes it had suffered frequent assaults and sieges - including one by the British in 1841. During British rule the town became an important junction on the Sind-Peshin railway where the Harnai line and the Quetta loop line meet, near the entrance of the Bolan Pass, 88 m southeast of Quetta. According to the 1901 census of India the population of Sibi was 4551. In 1903 the Victoria Memorial Hall was built from public funds, a piped water supply to the town was provided by military funds from the river Nari at a cost of Rs.115,000.

Sibi is a historical city of Balochistan. It is sometimes also known as Sivi[citation needed], purportedly named for a Hindu princess. Most of its population belong to Panni Pashtuns, Panni is the branch of Ghourghust and brother of a famous Pashtun tribe Kakar. Sibi is an agricultural city. Pashtoons (Panni) are the owner of 98% of landmass, while 2% land is owned by Balochs. There is also a historical fort in Sibi. This fort was built in the period on Hindu Rule and still exist in a bad condition
http://www.travel-culture.com/pakistan/sibi.shtml

[Khan Baba]

I dont say that you are wrong. But we cannot call someone Pukhtun if he/she doesnt like to call her Pukhtun. Even if they are Pukhtun by race but if they want to be Baloch so lets call them Baloch particularly when they have more affinities with Baloch.