Charwak
09-23-2006, 07:00 PM
Yaw war za kalee key da baar na raghlam. So goram che pa kore key da khazo jang dey. Jang kho bas sho, but I was called to Hujra to speak on election campaign. Whatever I said was “Kara Kara” and I teach a lesson to every one in Hujra.
In another event, when I was presiding over a meting in Riyadh in a tense mood, in the middle of this meting, when discussion got heated, I stood up and said, TASO TOLE “NA SAREE RAGHWAND SHAWEE YAI”, and walked out.
Next morning, when I waked up, I realized my mistake and called on every participant asking for apology.
Coming to the point, this forum is our home. Everyone visit here to see each other. Discussing the issues and expecting others to follow the right ways. If some one is tense and sees some one is making mistake or crossing Pukhtialogy limits, you can expect him/her some hot comments or words but it doesn’t mean that he or she intentionally doing it. We have to understand them and nothing bad in it to forgive them. If we haven’t difference of opinion, we might no need to discuss the issues in this forum. I don’t need to explain how Pakhtuns are sensitive to their culture and traditions. So far he is making joke of the world, so when you start laughing on his codes, he will obviously heat up. That’s what you are calling their honor and trying to underestimate it.
We can’t expect everybody coming here are nationalists or understanding the real definition of nationalism. Some of us are mixing the nationalism and Racism. Some may visit here after hard day of work to relax him/herself within Pakhtun community. Many will visit for their study and intellectual work. Some of us will try to deliver their messages and of course some people will visit here to do their duties. But why should we be disturbed? I can’t believe that if some Pakhtun diplomat, bureaucrat or army general visiting here from somewhere else is our enemy. I was reading someone from Cybaria who introduced himself as army personnel. I found him more serious to Pakhtun issues than most of our nationalists including me. I know someone from Pakistani PM House asking for Nazia Iqbal. You will not aware of the fact that there are many IPs related to military head quarters but I also do know that most of the military personals visiting here are Pakhtun lovers and they are sharing valuable information with us. Working in Army doesn’t mean that they are not Pakhtuns or not nationalists. In your family, someone will be school teacher, some one will belongs to Jumat Islami and someone will like Osama Bin Ladin. There could be some family member who is serving under Punjabi boss and someone will prize Musharraf for his agenda. You never know one of your family members grow up non-sense wasting time but you can’t kick them out of the family. We can’t rule out the presence of ISI, CIA etc too. I noted many visits even from Israel, but being a webmaster I also know its reason. When ever we publish something regarding them, the visits from this country get increased. What you think that I will put the article “Will America assassinate Gen. Mussharraf? “And ISI will not visit to the discussions?
But we should concentrate on our own work. It is so easy to balm others but this will not solve our problem. I received many PMs and e-mails in which conservatives are objecting on “Westernized” and vise versa. Interestingly there are more silent Pakhtun conservative girls visiting here. They should come forward openly to defend their views so that East can argue the West instead of any interference of the gender disputes.
I don’t prefer to interfere between the members because I do believe that KhyberWatch owned by every Pakhtun and their disputes or fighting is not in the sense to damage the forum but this is our national behaviour to quarrel on each and single topics and issue.
If we don’t argue how will we reach to the conclusion? I saw many books recently published having references from Khyberwatch. We have to be careful and to the point in the case when a leading research paper presented in the world Pakhto congress taking its references from Khyberwatch FORUM.
(Pakhtun: Paroon, Nan au Saba by Dr. Mian Suhail Ansha)
Book: Pakhtun, Paroon, Nan au Saba pages 85- 131
Reference from: www.khyberwatch.com/forum/index.php?Show topic=27
Last time, I received a resignation of a moderator (invisible). I wrote her that I hope, she has valid reasons for this decision. She did not explain the reason but it was look like protest. May be she was also angry but I failed to understand, how can we do this? If someone wrote you PM, you are objecting on some thread, the best way to divert this link to the administrator with your points. So he will be able to judge the situation.
I have the guidance to the moderators not to under estimate the members openly and if they do some mistake, just PM them. If the post is too sensitive, just delete it or edit it. Moderator should not resign in such way. “GHAL NA TAKHTIE, MAL THAKHTIE. Members do know that deletion of the post is the right of moderator if he or she feels it is necessary.
Yesterday, I was free in office and read out two threads. Talking about Pakhtun jeans lady, I was able to understand Mandohile’s comments. We mostly translate Pashto while writing other languages. Pakhtun, at the time of protest or great anger, use Pashto words and ZRA YE ALA YAKHIEGIE. Pa makh warta tookal is a common sentence in Pashto and it means that he was registering his hate for the lady who wears Jeans in Islam Abad and consider herself Pakhtun too.
If Mandokhile wrote some feelings in English, I think, we have to take it into Pashto version of expressions.
However, I like the post of some member who was saying, he wish to see every girl in Jeans pant except his family members. This was the best reply in the Pakhtun sense. However, I don’t mind if some Paktun lady wears jeans in Europe or America. But they should not defend it in Pakhtun society or Eastern part of the world.
Let us come to the topic where Lyla khore was putting favorite Hindi/Urdu songs. I can’t stop Lyla and I can’t argue with Mandohile in the sense of justification. Lyla is a senior member and knows the limits of the forum and she had asked at the banging that if it is not suitable, deletes it. Mandohile is a moderator and he has an open hand to delete the posts or thread. But instead of deleting or closing the topic, he started argument and it gives me the impression that Khyberwatch has the right person to moderate the forum. Deleting the messages is the easy job but he did not use this opportunity. We have to prize him. I also thanks to lyla that she never reacted in the manner we are blaming her like pretending a naughty or Punjabi girl (tror).
She is naughty sometime but she is nazawaley hum da kana. I got surprised when we were talking about Rahim Shah but she brought a Punjabi singer “Shezad Roi” and said, she like him. I think this is the reason; some of the members are blaming her for being Punjaban minded. However, I personally don’t take such things so serious. We all do mistakes in our daily life and the more you write, the more you can make mistakes. I will request not to consider our members and moderators as the most perfect people. We will make mistake, then we will argue and as a result, we will learn. And it will take this forum as the permanent place for each and every Pakhtun even if he or she married elsewhere.
I saw one post under estimating or dishonoring Rahmat Shah Sail for his presidential award. It was objectionable but we did not delete it. I believe the poster has gotten the PM regarding it. I wrote to the moderator to ignore his comments as basically the poster doesn’t mean to disgrace someone but writing online has many problems including spelling, composition and other mistakes. When a Pakhtun writing online, he react promptly but we believe, later he or she realizes the fault of the reply.
However, if the question comes to the literacy of mother tongue and other languages, then I find myself with Mandohile and co.
I was trying to hear my daughter talking in Urdu because it was so interesting event for me how soon she picked up this language in Peshawari accent. I was also interested to find out if she learned Hinko in the name of Urdu. But soon she requested me not to force her for Urdu as she doesn’t like Urdu. I said, Dear, You should not have any hate for any language. You have your full command on your mother tongue and I am so happy that you like Pashto. Now when you are learning other languages, it is your additional qualifications and you have to be proud on it.
But I forced my son not to compete his sister trying to speak in Urdu just because; he is not fluent in Pashto so far. I told him that I don’t want to hear you that you are so fluent in English or Urdu but when someone tells you to write something in your mother tongue, and you will proudly say; I can’t read or write Pashto”. You should learn Pashto first.
I myself burn my blood when I hear someone that they can’t read or write Pashto. This is now a fashion that people are proudly learning other languages but can’t realize that learning other languages at the price of mother tongue is not the ability. In such way, you will unable to get in touch with your culture and traditions. You will read, write and speak of the cultures which are actually not related to your homeland and it will result adverse reaction to your taughts.
In another event, when I was presiding over a meting in Riyadh in a tense mood, in the middle of this meting, when discussion got heated, I stood up and said, TASO TOLE “NA SAREE RAGHWAND SHAWEE YAI”, and walked out.
Next morning, when I waked up, I realized my mistake and called on every participant asking for apology.
Coming to the point, this forum is our home. Everyone visit here to see each other. Discussing the issues and expecting others to follow the right ways. If some one is tense and sees some one is making mistake or crossing Pukhtialogy limits, you can expect him/her some hot comments or words but it doesn’t mean that he or she intentionally doing it. We have to understand them and nothing bad in it to forgive them. If we haven’t difference of opinion, we might no need to discuss the issues in this forum. I don’t need to explain how Pakhtuns are sensitive to their culture and traditions. So far he is making joke of the world, so when you start laughing on his codes, he will obviously heat up. That’s what you are calling their honor and trying to underestimate it.
We can’t expect everybody coming here are nationalists or understanding the real definition of nationalism. Some of us are mixing the nationalism and Racism. Some may visit here after hard day of work to relax him/herself within Pakhtun community. Many will visit for their study and intellectual work. Some of us will try to deliver their messages and of course some people will visit here to do their duties. But why should we be disturbed? I can’t believe that if some Pakhtun diplomat, bureaucrat or army general visiting here from somewhere else is our enemy. I was reading someone from Cybaria who introduced himself as army personnel. I found him more serious to Pakhtun issues than most of our nationalists including me. I know someone from Pakistani PM House asking for Nazia Iqbal. You will not aware of the fact that there are many IPs related to military head quarters but I also do know that most of the military personals visiting here are Pakhtun lovers and they are sharing valuable information with us. Working in Army doesn’t mean that they are not Pakhtuns or not nationalists. In your family, someone will be school teacher, some one will belongs to Jumat Islami and someone will like Osama Bin Ladin. There could be some family member who is serving under Punjabi boss and someone will prize Musharraf for his agenda. You never know one of your family members grow up non-sense wasting time but you can’t kick them out of the family. We can’t rule out the presence of ISI, CIA etc too. I noted many visits even from Israel, but being a webmaster I also know its reason. When ever we publish something regarding them, the visits from this country get increased. What you think that I will put the article “Will America assassinate Gen. Mussharraf? “And ISI will not visit to the discussions?
But we should concentrate on our own work. It is so easy to balm others but this will not solve our problem. I received many PMs and e-mails in which conservatives are objecting on “Westernized” and vise versa. Interestingly there are more silent Pakhtun conservative girls visiting here. They should come forward openly to defend their views so that East can argue the West instead of any interference of the gender disputes.
I don’t prefer to interfere between the members because I do believe that KhyberWatch owned by every Pakhtun and their disputes or fighting is not in the sense to damage the forum but this is our national behaviour to quarrel on each and single topics and issue.
If we don’t argue how will we reach to the conclusion? I saw many books recently published having references from Khyberwatch. We have to be careful and to the point in the case when a leading research paper presented in the world Pakhto congress taking its references from Khyberwatch FORUM.
(Pakhtun: Paroon, Nan au Saba by Dr. Mian Suhail Ansha)
Book: Pakhtun, Paroon, Nan au Saba pages 85- 131
Reference from: www.khyberwatch.com/forum/index.php?Show topic=27
Last time, I received a resignation of a moderator (invisible). I wrote her that I hope, she has valid reasons for this decision. She did not explain the reason but it was look like protest. May be she was also angry but I failed to understand, how can we do this? If someone wrote you PM, you are objecting on some thread, the best way to divert this link to the administrator with your points. So he will be able to judge the situation.
I have the guidance to the moderators not to under estimate the members openly and if they do some mistake, just PM them. If the post is too sensitive, just delete it or edit it. Moderator should not resign in such way. “GHAL NA TAKHTIE, MAL THAKHTIE. Members do know that deletion of the post is the right of moderator if he or she feels it is necessary.
Yesterday, I was free in office and read out two threads. Talking about Pakhtun jeans lady, I was able to understand Mandohile’s comments. We mostly translate Pashto while writing other languages. Pakhtun, at the time of protest or great anger, use Pashto words and ZRA YE ALA YAKHIEGIE. Pa makh warta tookal is a common sentence in Pashto and it means that he was registering his hate for the lady who wears Jeans in Islam Abad and consider herself Pakhtun too.
If Mandokhile wrote some feelings in English, I think, we have to take it into Pashto version of expressions.
However, I like the post of some member who was saying, he wish to see every girl in Jeans pant except his family members. This was the best reply in the Pakhtun sense. However, I don’t mind if some Paktun lady wears jeans in Europe or America. But they should not defend it in Pakhtun society or Eastern part of the world.
Let us come to the topic where Lyla khore was putting favorite Hindi/Urdu songs. I can’t stop Lyla and I can’t argue with Mandohile in the sense of justification. Lyla is a senior member and knows the limits of the forum and she had asked at the banging that if it is not suitable, deletes it. Mandohile is a moderator and he has an open hand to delete the posts or thread. But instead of deleting or closing the topic, he started argument and it gives me the impression that Khyberwatch has the right person to moderate the forum. Deleting the messages is the easy job but he did not use this opportunity. We have to prize him. I also thanks to lyla that she never reacted in the manner we are blaming her like pretending a naughty or Punjabi girl (tror).
She is naughty sometime but she is nazawaley hum da kana. I got surprised when we were talking about Rahim Shah but she brought a Punjabi singer “Shezad Roi” and said, she like him. I think this is the reason; some of the members are blaming her for being Punjaban minded. However, I personally don’t take such things so serious. We all do mistakes in our daily life and the more you write, the more you can make mistakes. I will request not to consider our members and moderators as the most perfect people. We will make mistake, then we will argue and as a result, we will learn. And it will take this forum as the permanent place for each and every Pakhtun even if he or she married elsewhere.
I saw one post under estimating or dishonoring Rahmat Shah Sail for his presidential award. It was objectionable but we did not delete it. I believe the poster has gotten the PM regarding it. I wrote to the moderator to ignore his comments as basically the poster doesn’t mean to disgrace someone but writing online has many problems including spelling, composition and other mistakes. When a Pakhtun writing online, he react promptly but we believe, later he or she realizes the fault of the reply.
However, if the question comes to the literacy of mother tongue and other languages, then I find myself with Mandohile and co.
I was trying to hear my daughter talking in Urdu because it was so interesting event for me how soon she picked up this language in Peshawari accent. I was also interested to find out if she learned Hinko in the name of Urdu. But soon she requested me not to force her for Urdu as she doesn’t like Urdu. I said, Dear, You should not have any hate for any language. You have your full command on your mother tongue and I am so happy that you like Pashto. Now when you are learning other languages, it is your additional qualifications and you have to be proud on it.
But I forced my son not to compete his sister trying to speak in Urdu just because; he is not fluent in Pashto so far. I told him that I don’t want to hear you that you are so fluent in English or Urdu but when someone tells you to write something in your mother tongue, and you will proudly say; I can’t read or write Pashto”. You should learn Pashto first.
I myself burn my blood when I hear someone that they can’t read or write Pashto. This is now a fashion that people are proudly learning other languages but can’t realize that learning other languages at the price of mother tongue is not the ability. In such way, you will unable to get in touch with your culture and traditions. You will read, write and speak of the cultures which are actually not related to your homeland and it will result adverse reaction to your taughts.